NBA Daily Odds for Thursday, October 30

Yesterday: 5-8
Season: 7-10

Washington (-4.5) @ Orlando (188.5 o/u) 

So, I was right in the first game about Orlando not being able to score. This line seems insane to me, but the fact that Washington is on a back-to-back has to something to do with it I’m sure. Just hard for me to believe they can’t win by five or more tonight.

Pick: Washington -4.5

New York (204 o/u) @ Cleveland (-13)

Easy call for me, lock on Cleveland. The Q will be rockin’ tonight, and it’s just way, way too much firepower on the court for the Knicks to handle.

Pick: Cleveland -13 & Over 204

Detroit (205.5 o/u) @ Minnesota (-6)

Okay, again! This line seems INSANE to me. Minnesota played well last night, and Detroit didn’t, but… come on! Detroit is a better team, right?

Pick: Detroit +6

Utah (202 o/u) @ Dallas (-10.5)

This is a pretty solid line, I think. Dallas looked great in game one against San Antonio, though, and Utah is on a back-to-back on the road, while the Mavs had a day off and are at home.

Pick: Dallas -10.5

Oklahoma City (204.5 o/u) @ L.A. Clippers (-13)

I have too much respect for Westbrook and Ibaka to go with the Clippers at -13 here… but I really want to. I like the under, though, because these are actually two pretty good defensive teams when it comes right down to it, and OKC looked challenged offensively by Portland last night, and LAC is much better on that end of the ball.

Pick: Under 204.5 

NBA Daily Odds for Wednesday, October 29

Last Night: 2-2
Season: 2-2

Milwaukee (193 o/u) @ Charlotte (-8)

Interesting match-up tonight in Buzz City. Milwaukee, along with Utah, as emerged as a trendy “surprise” team in preseason predictions. People keep saying how much they like the roster, but no one wants to commit to saying they will win a lot of games.

Charlotte on the other hand is clearly in line for a return to the playoffs behind head coach Steve Clifford. This was a top defensive team last year, and the Bucks, with Larry Sanders back in the middle, should be improved on that end as well.

I think the atmosphere in Charlotte, full of excitement and hope, carries the Hornets tonight to a big victory. I also think this one goes under, as neither team has the offensive firepower that makes me worry about making that pick.

Pick: Charlotte -8 & Under 193

Philadelphia (189.5 o/u) @ Indiana (-7) 

A fate worse than death in Indiana tonight. No MCW, no David West, no joy. Who is the 2nd most exciting player in this game behind Nerlens Noel? Is it Rodney Stuckey? George Hill? Roy Hibbert? Hollis Thompson? Seriously, this is ugly.

I’ll take the under because I literally don’t know who can score on either team. At all.

Pick: Under 189.5 

Brooklyn (193 o/u) @ Boston (PK)

No Brook Lopez, and Rajon Rondo is possibly playing tonight. My confidential source says that he Rondo will 100% take the floor tonight, but my confidential source also uses me as a business contact, so who knows if that means anything.

I would love to pick my Celtics here – they are so much more young and exciting than Brooklyn it’s not even funny. I’m not even sure Brooklyn’s roster without Brook Lopez is objectively much better than Boston’s, actually. My brain still says Brooklyn, but I’m way more hopeful and excited about this year’s Celtics than I was about last year’s. I love that Brad Stevens says they’re going to play faster, and I love that their guard rotation is a defensive juggernaut of Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart and Rajon Rondo. Screw it, I’m being a homer.

Pick: Boston PK

Atlanta (200.5 o/u) @ Toronto (-4.5)

Wait, we do know that these are like, two of the better defensive teams in the East right? With Horford back for Atlanta they should be a top-12 defense, while Toronto should be top-10 this year no problem. I have them projected at 9 in Defensive Rating.

The under is easy for me, but what about the line? I really love Atlanta, and I think this game is more of a toss-up than the line indicates. I love Toronto, too, and think they’re a very good team who will have a better record than the Hawks this year. But I don’t know that they are 4.5 points better over a 48 minute span – even at home.

Pick: Under 200.5 & Atlanta +4.5

Washington (188.5 o/u) @ Miami (-3.5) 

The first post-LeBron game in South Beach shouldn’t be too somber of an atmosphere – Chris Bosh is back, Dwyane Wade is back, and Luol Deng and Josh McRoberts are here to play for one of the five best coaches in the NBA right now. What’s more, the Wizards are in town. These two teams have developed a quiet rivalry over the past few seasons, and with Bradley Beal out, this is a very even match-up.

Miami’s home crowd doesn’t suck the way people say it does, by the way. They’ve done some pretty silly things (leaving a Finals game early, for instance) but they can get loud and have some fun there. I think they’ll really rally around this Heat team. Of course, that could be wishful thinking.

The Wiz play the Heat tough, but will that same fire be there without ‘Bron to bring it out in people? Ultimately, I’m taking Washington because I think they are a slightly better team and that home court advantage doesn’t give the Heat this much of an edge. Also, Miami’s lack of depth is concerning to me.

Pick: Washington +3.5

Chicago (-4) @ New York (185 o/u) 

Chicago covers. Lock. (I’m not writing about the Knicks this season until I have to)

Pick: Chicago -4

Minnesota (197.5 o/u) @ Memphis (-7.5)

Oh god, lock lock lock.

Pick: Memphis -7.5

Detroit (206.5 o/u) @ Denver (-6.5) 

This is a fun match-up, our first sneaky fun inter-conference game of the year. I like Detroit’s roster now better than last year, but I still don’t like it a whole lot. Denver on the other hand is deep and talented. If you swapped coaches for tonight’s game, I’d call Denver a lock at -6.5. I don’t really like Bryan Shaw’s style, though, and Detroit has Stan Van, who is a master of the game.

The smartest thing here might be the under. Detroit under Stan Van should defend much better than last season, especially given their personnel. They also don’t look like an offensive juggernaut to me, and neither does Denver, really. These are two teams that should produce over 200 together, sure, but 206.5 seems high to me.

Pick: Under 206.5

Houston (-3.5) @ Utah (202 o/u) 

Until Utah beats a line like this against a team as good as Houston, I’m picking against them without question. The over/under here is the harder read, so I’ll pass on that all day.

Pick: Houston -3.5

LA Lakers (207.5 o/u) @ Phoenix (-12)

Remember yesterday when I said at least the Lakers would be decent offensively this season? Yeah, that didn’t last long. This line got huge real fast though.

Pass

Golden State (-4.5) @ Sacramento (205.5 o/u) 

BOOGIE! The over/under here is tempting on the over side, since Steve Kerr’s offense should be much better than Mark Jackson’s, at least in theory, and Sacramento has not been good defensively with this group of guys ever. But Golden State’s defense is deceptively good, and it’s hard to trust that the three point shooting will be ready to light it up this early in the season.

I like Golden State, though. I would take them at -5.5, actually, and maybe even at -6.

Pick: Golden State -4.5

Oklahoma City (198.5 o/u) @ Portland (-9)

I mean, this all depends on how you feel about OKC without Durant. I for one am excited to see a still pretty good team come together and compete. Russell Westbrook will be electrifying I’m sure, and Serge Ibaka is no joke. Hard to call, but ultimately I guess I believe in OKC to not get blown out in their first game without KD. I trust in Russ.

Pick: OKC +9

NBA Daily Odds for Tuesday, October 28

Last Season: 400-383

So, here we are. The 2014-15 NBA season has finally arrived. This has all the trappings of a truly fun NBA year, and I’m psyched about it. Without further ado, the first night of your daily picks for the 2014-15 NBA season:

Orlando (191 o/u) @ New Orleans (-9.5)

First prop bet of the season: Orlando doesn’t crack 90 tonight. Playing Anthony Davis and Omer Asik with the offensive abortion that is the Orlando Magic’s roster is a recipe for disaster.

The Pellies should crush it tonight. Everyone is expecting this to be a season long emergence of Anthony Davis as world-beating talent, and I for one am thrilled to watch that happen. Let’s go.

Pick: New Orleans -9.5

Dallas (202.5 o/u) @ San Antonio (-3.5)

Tight line on this one, and rightfully so: Dallas looks much improved, and the Spurs rarely care about things like season openers. The better bet here, though, is the over. These are two crazy efficient offensive teams, and I think the early season shooting cobwebs aren’t enough to keep both teams under 100 tonight. Too much scoring potential on the floor.

Pick: Over 202.5

Houston (-7) @ L.A. Lakers (207 o/u) 

The over and the Rockets are both locks here tonight. Houston should put up 115 against this abysmal defense, and they’ll be glad to let LA score 95-100 on the flip side of that. Way easier for them to win like that than in a grind them out game, anyway.

Pick: Houston -7 & Over 207

NBA Preview: Eastern Conference Playoff Predictions

Earlier today, OBB published our 30-team NBA projection for the upcoming season, featuring over/under picks and forecasted records for every team in the league. Well, now that we have the pesky regular season out of the way, it’s time to delve into the Eastern Conference playoffs and see how we think things may shake out. Let’s jump right in with the eight teams OBB has making the playoffs in the East:

  1. Cleveland Cavaliers, 60-22
  2. Chicago Bulls, 57-25
  3. Toronto Raptors, 49-33
  4. Washington Wizards, 47-35
  5. Atlanta Hawks, 46-36
  6. Charlotte Hornets, 46-36
  7. Miami Heat, 44-38
  8. Brooklyn Nets, 43-39

No major surprises there, really. The two teams that I think could make a playoff push are the Pistons and the Knicks. For me, the Pistons are more likely, even though I picked the Knicks to finish with a better record. I just think that a team coached by Stan Van and with Andre Drummond on it is a better bet than whatever the hell is going on at MSG this year. The Knicks are a lock to be a bottom ten defense, and I have them projected in bottom five. That does not bode well for playoff chances.

On to the first round match-ups:

1. Cleveland vs. 8. Brooklyn
Well, uh, I don’t much to say about this.
Cleveland in 4.

2. Chicago vs. 7. Miami
This is a match-up with some intrigue, as Coach Spo and Coach Thibs know each other well at this point, and there is some genuine dislike between the two teams. Miami has playoff chops, but they aren’t especially deep. Good subplots here because Dwyane Wade is from Chicago and Luol Deng played there for so long.

In the end, Chicago is too deep, too savvy and too physical. I just don’t see a way the Heat get out of this one.
Chicago in 5. 

3. Toronto vs. 6. Charlotte
Now we’re getting into the really fun stuff! My favorite time of year in the NBA is the first round match-ups! So many weird series going on that feature mini-battles that are intriguing to NBA nerds. These are two teams that project to be very good defensively and that have a weird craziness to them. The Raptors were the secret tough guys of the NBA last year, and Charlotte is owned by Michael Jordan and now has Lance Stephenson. I would watch every minute of this series just to see how Lowry and Lance tried to get in each others’ heads. I love it.

Down to the X’s and O’s, Toronto would need Jonas Valanciunas and Amir Johnson to play very well on the inside in this series. Charlotte would need Kemba to hold his own against Lowry, but they do have MKG and Lance to lock down Terence Ross and DeMar DeRozan, which is a nice luxury to have.

The big question mark for me in this series is shooting. Can Charlotte convert the triples? Marvin Williams, Lance and the bench guards (Gary Neal, Gerald Henderson, Brian Roberts, Jeffrey Taylor) need to shoot the long ball well in this match-up. I’m just not confident that they would be effective enough against a strong, deep Toronto team with a crazy intense home crowd.
Toronto in 6. 

4. Washington vs. 5. Atlanta

Another high-intrigue series for me. I LOVE this Hawks team. Al Horford and Paul Millsap are both on my All-Undervalued team going into this season without a doubt. Jeff Teague actually is an honorable mention for that squad, as well. I’m wild about Budenholzer as a coach, and I think that this roster fits his style really well. I mean, come on, Kyle Korver in a Spurs-based system? Ideal.

With Horford, the Hawks project to be a top-10 defense in 2014-15. The Wizards already accomplished that feat a year ago, but lost Trevor Ariza, their best wing defender. Paul Pierce can still defend to some extent, but not the way Ariza did.

John Wall can take over a series, though, and Bradley Beal is a player that I am just waiting to explode in a big playoff game. I love Gortat and Nene, and the general toughness of this Wizards team. This is the hardest series for me to call.

The coaching in Washington really bothers me, though. I think that Washington’s ceiling is higher than Atlanta’s, but that Atlanta is more likely to play above themselves while Washington lacks key direction and has it’s weaknesses exposed more readily. I’m going Atlanta here.
Atlanta in 7. 

1. Cleveland vs. 5. Atlanta

This is the match-up the Cavs should want, really. Nothing here really threatens them outside of Horford down low, and that’s not enough to swing this far enough in the Hawks favor. Atlanta won’t be able to bully the Cavs the way the Wizards potentially could, and that’s the one thing I would be worried about for Cleveland: they don’t have playoff chops, so composure will be essential.

Cleveland will be too fast and with too much range for this to be much of a series. Barring a Millsap or Teague hero game, I see this one being over fairly quickly as well.
Cavs in 5. 

2. Chicago vs. 3. Toronto

If Toronto can hang on to their attitude from a year ago and stay tough, this is going to be a very interesting series. Kyle Lowry will LOVE going against Derrick Rose on a big stage. He lives for that kind of competition. Jonas Valanciunas will get the biggest test of his career, and Amir Johnson and Taj Gibson are incredibly similar and both just all around great to watch.

Chicago has all the star power here, though. The match-ups line up well for the Bulls, and while these rosters are constructed similarly, it’s like Toronto has A- and B- players to Chicago’s A and B players. Dwayne Casey has become a coach I really like, but Thibs is a level above as well.

The one argument that trips me up a little bit here? Thibs minutes philosophy in the regular season. He shouldn’t be playing all his best guys 35+ minutes for 82 games, but he probably will. I love his competitive nature, but look at what the Spurs are doing, and do more things like that. That’s just a basic NBA rule: Emulate the Spurs whenever possible. The Bulls are at risk to be rundown and tired early in the playoffs if Thibodeau keeps up his shenanigans this year.

The talent is clearly here, though, and they should take down Toronto in a fun series that is closer than some think.
Chicago in 6. 

1. Cleveland vs. 2. Chicago

Ah, finally. This is what everyone is predicting, isn’t it? There’s really not much way around it if all teams remain healthy, unless the Wizards really gel, Bradley Beal takes a crazy leap and Randy Whitman goes missing around game 45 of the regular season.

Chicago is tough, seasoned, well-coached, motivated and deep. They will abuse you and make every possession difficult. They will play the game the right way, and if Derrick Rose is the player we know he can be, they could be the best team in the entire NBA.

Cleveland is an offensive juggernaut. David Blatt has the perfect personnel for his style here, and LeBron and Love are a dream pairing that happens to get Kyrie Irving and Dion Waiters as complimentary pieces. This team will be ridiculous.

This series lines up as a all-timer, but I’m predicting some serious sloppiness here. This is where the Cavs composure element really comes into play, and if they falter for a few minutes in one game, it could swing the whole series. Luckily, LeBron is one of the sport’s ultimate leaders, and Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving have played in big games for Team U.S.A. despite having no playoff experience. That helps (a little).

Logic tells me to pick the Bulls. It says that defense is a safer bet than offense here, and that experience matters and makes up for the talent differential.

But in the end, I see this Cavs team as the team with the best player in the series. People can talk all they want about how it took the Heat a year to gel and come into their own, but LeBron now is a different guy than LeBron then. He has become a leader and is able to unite people in a way that makes him even more special than before. I don’t think this Cavs team is like the Miami Heat teams. I don’t think they will be as unique, as innovative. But I think they’ll be better.

Cavs in 7. 

NBA Over/Unders and Projected Records – All 30 Teams

So much has changed since I started doing the Division previews and going through over/unders team by team that I have pretty much decided that I need to scrap that project and just do one massive, up to date posting here. There’s no way around it – injuries, preseason performances and things coaches have said (I’m looking at you, Byron) have influenced the lines and moved things too drastically for me to act like projections from two weeks ago still hold true. The season hasn’t started yet, so I’m calling a mulligan. Everything I said about the teams in my previews holds true – I just have altered my projections and the lines have moved as well.

For this project I’m using lines from Sportsbook.ag, just to be clear.

Atlantic Division:
Toronto Raptors – 49-33, OVER 48 (-115)

Brooklyn Nets – 43-39, OVER 42 (-115)
New York Knicks – 37-45, UNDER 41 (-115)
Boston Celtics – 25-57, UNDER 27 (-110)
Philadelphia 76ers – 14-68, UNDER 15.5 (-115)

Central Division:
Cleveland Cavaliers – 60-22, OVER 58.5 (-115)

Chicago Bulls – 57-25, OVER 55.5 (-115)
Detroit Pistons – 35-47, UNDER 36 (-110)
Indiana Pacers – 30-52, UNDER 33.5 (-115)
Milwaukee Bucks – 24-58, UNDER 24.5 (-115)

Southeast Division:
Washington Wizards – 47-35, UNDER 47.5 (-115)

Atlanta Hawks – 46-36, OVER 42 (-115)
Charlotte Hornets – 46-36, OVER 44.5 (-115)
Miami Heat – 44-38, UNDER 44.5 (EVEN)
Orlando Magic – 22-60, UNDER 27.5 (-125)

Southwest Division:
San Antonio Spurs – 60-22, OVER 57.5 (-115)
Dallas Mavericks – 54-28, OVER 50.5 (-120)
Houston Rockets – 52-30, OVER 49.5 (-110)
Memphis Grizzlies – 50-32, OVER 48.5 (-120)
New Orleans Pelicans – 37-45, UNDER 43.5 (-115)

Northwest Division:
Oklahoma City Thunder – 55-27, OVER 53.5 (-115)
Portland Trailblazers – 49-33, UNDER 50 (EVEN)
Denver Nuggets – 41-41, UNDER 42.5 (-115)
Minnesota Timberwolves – 26-56, UNDER 27.5 (EVEN)
Utah Jazz – 22-60, UNDER 26.5 (-115)

Pacific Division:
Los Angeles Clippers – 57-25, OVER 56.5 (-115)
Golden State Warriors – 53-29, OVER 51.5 (-120)
Phoenix Suns – 42-40, UNDER 44 (-110)
Sacramento Kings – 27-55, UNDER 30.5 (-115)
Los Angeles Lakers – 26-56, UNDER 30.5 (-115)

Some teams that Oddball Baskets really likes going into the season: The Hornets, the Hawks, the Warriors, the Mavericks, and obviously the Spurs.

Some teams Oddball Baskets isn’t as crazy about going into the season: The Pelicans (messy on the perimeter), the Heat (no depth), the Lakers and Knicks (NO defense) and the Magic (raw, pieces don’t fit in a way that will produce wins immediately).

We will be following up with Eastern and Western Conference playoff previews and predictions, and an NBA Finals prediction piece as well. Enjoy!

Over/Unders: Southwest Division

The champs are here! As we continue our exploration of NBA over/unders and projected records for all 30 NBA teams, we have arrived upon the best division in basketball. The Southwest features four teams that made the playoffs last season, while the fifth team has Anthony Davis, the most electrifying young player in the game. This division is STACKED. Let’s get into it.

San Antonio Spurs, 56.5 – OVER, 60-22
56.5 is such a laughably low number for this team. They won 62 games last year, 58 in 2012 and went 50-16 in the lockout shortened season of 2011. The only possible argument here is that they’ve gotten a year older, except every time that anyone has used that argument, the Spurs have made an adjustment and finessed their way back to the top.

There is no professional sports franchise that I respect more than the Spurs. The way that they think creatively about the game and seek out the best talent no matter the barriers has shown us a new world in terms of what an NBA team can do. They seem to have a pipeline of international talent that compliments their absurd ability to pluck just about any player off the NBA’s scrap heap, brush the dust off and have them hitting clutch threes in the playoffs four months later. It’s just incredible.

I could write 3,000 words about the Spurs. The respect I have for Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi Leonard, Greg Popovich, R.C. Buford, and virtually everyone else who allows them to be this fun, creative juggernaut that I look forward to seeing every year. This year, they take the floor with Becky Hammon as an assistant coach, the first full-time female assistant coach in NBA history. Do I think they care about that distinction? Not at all. I think they probably think the other 29 NBA teams are stupid for under valuing Hammon’s potential contribution, though.

Preseason is a world where you have to evaluate all the potential branches of the season, and, if you run a blog like this one, analyze where the most potential branches may lead. The Western Conference is very, very tough – the Thunder and Clippers are sure to be excellent again, and there are literally five other teams that could contend for a title if things break their way in the West. But no matter how I slice it, I see the Spurs as the favorite to win the Western Conference in 2014-15.

Houston Rockets, 49.5 – OVER, 54-28
The Rockets had what some people would call a disastrous offseason, but those people are overreacting. Let’s look at what really happened here – they whiffed on Chris Bosh, a move that would have catapulted them into the top tier of title discussion, they allowed Chandler Parsons to walk, they jettisoned Omer Asik (who was basically not on their team last year anyway) and Jeremy Lin. In turn, they signed Trevor Ariza, who fills in a solid amount of Chandler Parsons offensive production while providing signfiicantly better defense, and cleared playing time for Isaiah Canaan.

Personally, I like those trade-offs. The Rockets had zero perimeter defense last season, and Ariza improves that at least slightly. If they have a starting five with Patrick Beverly, James Harden, Ariza, Terence Jones and Dwight Howard? That’s not a terrible defensive unit at all. It would be nice if James Harden cared at least .01% on defense, but he’s one of the best five offensive players in the league, so it’s actually forgivable if he asks the other guys to make up for his mistakes, really.

At the end of the day, my pick on this team is based on their talent. I have concerns about McHale as a coach, but Howard and Harden are elite, and that means something in this league. I hated what they both said about being the “only two players who mattered” on the team in spirit, but there’s some truth in the sentiment as well. Chandler Parsons was a very good player the past few seasons, but he wasn’t irreplaceable by any stretch of the imagination. I think this team continues to improve and is tough to beat yet again.

Memphis Grizzlies, 48.5 – OVER, 52-30
This division is freakin’ ridiculous. Memphis is so undervalued at 48.5 I don’t even know where to begin. In fact, I’m seriously worried I’m undervaluing them at 52! If the mid and bottom-tier Western conference teams aren’t as competitive as I think they will be, then the Grizz will blow this number away. Think about this – they won 50 games last year with Marc Gasol missing significant time, Quincy Pondexter missing basically the whole season, and while playing for the first year under a new coach who was clearly getting his footing the first two months. Oh, and they signed Vince Carter, who is one of my favorite role players in the league after his most recent reinvention.

This team is going to be very, very good. Mike Conley is one of the best two-way point guards in the league, and the addition of Jordan Adams to learn under Tony Allen actually makes a lot of sense. If Pondexter and Carter have good shooting seasons, then watch out. They will grit’n’grind their way into almost every game.

Dallas Mavericks, 49.5 – OVER, 50-32
I pick the over and still feel like I’m being disrespectful to Dirk and Rick Carlisle. Hell, even Monta. This team is also going to be very good. How is this one division?

The reason I’m lower on this team than I am on Houston or Memphis is an issue of depth and defense. I don’t see any of these three teams being deep enough to be a title contender, but Dallas has a mismatched bench squad full of guys who have never been good enough to get real NBA minutes before and guys who are well past the point of where they should get any real NBA minutes again.

That I could live with, because this starting unit is so strong, but the defense to me is unforgivable. The major improvement they made, slotting Tyson Chandler in at center, doesn’t actually impress me all that much. Chandler is not the player he was when he anchored Dallas’ championship defense, and honestly, it would probably take a player like that just to get this unit to league average in that category.

Last season they went with the strategy of just trying to outscore everybody – and it worked! They won 49 games! I see them improving on that mark but only slightly, as their main concern was only addressed to an extent.

New Orleans Pelicans, 41.5 – UNDER, 37-45
This was one of the easiest calls for me. This Pelicans team has talent, but I don’t see that talent fitting together well enough to win more than half of their games yet. Plus, Monty Williams is near the bottom of my NBA coach rankings, and I don’t see him finding a way to make this group gel.

But, on to the fun part: This team is going to be crazy to watch!!! Anthony Davis is now paired with Omer Asik, a rim-protecting, paint-patrolling center. This will allow Davis to go full-on nutso gadget arms all over the court on defense. They also should get Jrue Holiday and Ryan Anderson back. Having Anderson will open up all kinds of space on the floor, allowing them to run ~50 Holiday-Davis pick and rolls a game, which is obviously the ideal scenario for this team and every fan anywhere.

I’m excited about this team. I think they could be really, REALLY good in a few years, and that they have the right idea with a Davis-Asik-Holiday core. Even Tyreke Evans might work in there (and he’ll have to, since they signed him for like, literally ever). The piece that is really gumming things up right now, besides Monty, is Eric Gordon. His massive contract coupled with the fact that he is basically always injured puts a huge drain on their cap sheet and immediate opportunities. Hopefully they will sort it out while they have this core in place, because that would be something really cool to see.